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'Internet of Things' to take CES center stage

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"Internet of Things' to take CES center stage"

http://feedly.com/k/19HjXE5

Posted by phobos - 9 years ago

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Thanks for taking the time phobos! lets hope Vitesse is embedded in more than one product in the CES showcase.

Posted by GARIF - 9 years ago

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Lets see what becomes of our little company, personally I hope they stay solo.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/01/05/ces-tech-mergers-acquisitions-deals/4310571/

Posted by GARIF - 9 years ago

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Given that Mr. Martin is our largest investor, I'm sure he has nothing but the maximization of shareholder value on his mind. Let's keep our fingers crossed GARIF.

Posted by phobos - 9 years ago

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http://www.iotworld.com/author.asp?section_id=3150&doc_id=562400

Vitesse relationship with China's incumbents should make this opportunity a natural. Which ever standard the government settles on will always be beneficial to the incumbents.

Posted by GARIF - 9 years ago

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Are they saying that VTSS could sell 100M+ chips into electric meters in China?

http://theenergycollective.com/jeffstjohn/327826/china-wants-time-use-pricing-2015-one-meter-home-2017

Posted by phobos - 9 years ago | Updated 9 years ago

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https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/echelon-holley-jv-lands-smart-meter-pilots-in-china

Could the big "H" be Hi Sun Tech or Holley metering?? According to the man, there's plenty dough to be made from IoT and he plans to fill our boat!

And so, we're literally collecting hundreds or more customers in this space, guys we don't know y et that have been
coming to us over the last y ear. We've identified this as an area where we now have the wherewithal to go focus on.
And that was really the second reason we haven't play ed here as we didn't focus on being successful where we are.
We now feel we have a strong enough market position in the Carrier and Enterprise that we can take a few
resources incrementally and go focus on this market and see how fast we can grow it.


Christopher R. Gardner
Chief Executive Officer, Vitesse Semiconductor Corp. A
Right. I mean, a good example of, I just saw a name two day s ago, I can't even repeat it for y ou, it begins with an
'H', and it's a Chinese meter company, one of the largest in China. They designed in our Caracal switch in one of
their meters. We've never heard of them, we don't know who they are, but they 're going to sell a hell a lot of
meters. And so...

Posted by GARIF - 9 years ago

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Vitesse Inside.

Link Precision
Link Precision develops and manufactures telecom equipments for use in industrial environments like power plants and substations. The first product announced is a hardened IEC 61850 compliant 12-port gigabit switch with support for Precision Time Protocol (IEEE 1588 v2)

No matter who wins we win,

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/companies/bsnl-overlooking-golocal-policy-in-awarding-contracts-tejas-networks/article5614961.ece

Posted by GARIF - 9 years ago

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CRG response,
"So, it doesn't scale, as y ou're pointing out, to hundreds of millions of dollars. It will scale for the next 12 months or
so and"

With such juicy margins "IoT" needs to become a much bigger part of our business, WE NEED TO BREAK THE SCALE FROM IT!! 30% plus in the next 3 years should be attainable if Crg channels available resources at this possible gold mine. 100 million in IoT related sales would be better for us than 150 million from Enterprise.

Could we be moving towards becoming an IoT pure play, perhaps 50 plus % of business in 4 years???
for sure it's one of the reasons big money has been coming in, with plenty more high roll buyers to come.

just thinking out loud G and friends.

peace

Posted by GARIF - 9 years ago

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This " Industrial Internet of Things " looks to have a very distinct connection with one of our BOD members.

Vitesse BOD Member:

Matthew B Frey,

" is currently the CEO of Optimum Energy, LLC, a cloud-based SaaS provider of energy management applications for complex buildings, data centers, campuses, hospitals and manufacturing facilities, a position he has held since 2010. "

http://optimumenergyco.com/

I bet we will be seeing many different opportunities where Vitesse will be playing a part with Optimum Energy.

Posted by christ3opher - 9 years ago | Updated 9 years ago

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That's interesting. Good eye Chist3opher.

Posted by phobos - 9 years ago

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Your car is a thing, and if it gets connected to the internet, it will be a part of the internet of things.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/direct-communication-between-car-computers-may-reduce-accidents-by-up-to-80-percent/2014/02/03/b55e9330-8d1a-11e3-833c-33098f9e5267_story.html

From VTSS' Twitter page.

Posted by phobos - 9 years ago

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OMG- Monday (2/10): There were some after-hours trades in VTSS @ $3.50, up another 4 cents. This is unheard of, when it isn't earnings day. Someone is actually interested in VTSS and has come out of hibernation??

Posted by Techinvestor - 9 years ago

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“With over 30,000 deaths on our nation’s roads every year, we also believe it is critical that efforts to open up additional spectrum do not come at the expense of revolutionary life-saving technologies,” the letter said.

So much for progress! our technologies will simply help us become even more irresponsible. an hour ago, I drove past a mother who was guiding her perhaps 3 year old daughter as she drove a mini electric SUV; I drove back around and said to the proud mom how years ago we actually would work out(peddle) while driving those things!!
She gave me an "you crazy" kinda of a look.

Interesting tomorrow awaits, lets hope Vitesse becomes one of victors...

Posted by GARIF - 9 years ago

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''and Chambers pointed in that direction once again, stressing that Cisco's IoT game plan combines the company's cloud strategy with data analytics, mobile, collaboration, and most important of all, security."

"AND MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL, SECURITY"
Cisco, perhaps our first 20 million a year customer by Q3 2016?

Exciting times phobos!

Posted by GARIF - 9 years ago

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Security figures prominently in CSCO's plans since all American companies were painted with the same NSA brush. Then again, we sell to ALU as well, which is a large multinational company, or Ericsson, which is foreign-owned. CSCO might buy product just for the security features to convince customers that their products are secure (how wild would that be?). In any event, VTSS seems to be developing a very broad customer base for its products.

Posted by phobos - 9 years ago

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The BIG question is and always has been, whenever a price is put on a market that involves Vitesse.

How much of that $19 trillion IoT market will Vitesse be taking?

Posted by christ3opher - 9 years ago | Updated 9 years ago

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"So, it doesn't scale, as y ou're pointing out, to hundreds of millions of dollars. It will scale for the next 12 months or
so and we are looking pretty hard at our coverage model. But I think it's really just a matter of priority . Our big
friends are even not that excited about some of the big network in their companies, companies like Alcatel-Lucent
and Ericsson are Tier 2 accounts. So, a lot of these guy s, they 're off chasing Samsung cell phones or Steve Jobs,
right? So, a completely different viewpoint from their perspective."

Was this another FREUDIAN SLIP from our fearless leader????
Is he going to adjust that language in the near future???
If our products are so apropos, why can't IoT scale to hundreds of million? two hundred and one million qualifies as "hundreds of millions" right?? someone help me out please... thanks

Security: Security is vital to IoT networks, especially as the number of connected 'things' continues its massive growth. Vitesse's Intellisec™, a Layer-2 IEEE 802.1AE MACsec encryption technology, provides a low cost, low-power and easily scalable network-level security mechanism;
Network Timing: Synchronization is crucial to IoT networks to ensure that connected devices have accurate clocks for data acquisition and system control. Vitesse's VeriTime™, the industry's de facto highest accuracy IEEE 1588v2 Precision Time Protocol implementation for nanosecond-accurate network timing and synchronization, is a field-proven timing solution that meets the deterministic requirements of IoT networks.

Posted by GARIF - 9 years ago

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Garif,

are you planning on attending the 2014 shareholders meet? 2/19/14

if so, would you please ask as many questions as possible, especially questions pertaining to the many items that have been discussed here on the forum. this would help out those of us living many miles from Camarillo Ca.

Posted by christ3opher - 9 years ago | Updated 9 years ago

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sorry Chris!For sure daWiley will be there, lets hope he presents some of our concerns.

To whom ever is going, please ask,

1) About the traction of the Tiger

2) With the great margins to gain from IoT and the great fit that our products are for it, why should it not become 25 to 30% of our product revenue in the next 3 years??


"IoT is the new growth segment that we identified last y ear. We're getting tremendous response to our product
portfolio and we're on track to meet our three-year goal to drive revenues in IoT to 20% of our total."

Posted by GARIF - 9 years ago

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GARIF - I think asking about relative market share is a great question going forward. It will spell the difference for VTSS in terms of either being able to go it alone, or having to sell the company during a future round of industry consolidation. And don't get me wrong, I think if VTSS sells, maybe sometime in 2016, it will be at a share price well above today's valuation. Perhaps, during future earnings calls, it might be a good idea to not only have the CEO and CFO on hand, but also the CIO to discuss VTSS' market position, and both tactical and strategic market direction (s). This is something, that no matter how much the CEO seems to be briefed before calls, leaves me frustrated with the amount and level of information presented.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2453263,00.asp

Posted by phobos - 9 years ago | Updated 9 years ago

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Mobile technology big focus for GM North America as it rolls out connected cars

http://thechronicleherald.ca/wheelsnews/1187959-mobile-technology-big-focus-for-gm-north-america-as-it-rolls-out-connected-cars

Posted by phobos - 9 years ago

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Internet of Things now accounts for 2 per cent of world’s cellular connections - See more at:

http://www.themalaymailonline.com/tech-gadgets/article/internet-of-things-now-accounts-for-2-per-cent-of-worlds-cellular-connectio#sthash.g3Eqg0VD.dpuf

Posted by phobos - 9 years ago

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VTSS is definitely not sleeping:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/vitesse-unveils-small-form-factor-130000931.html

They're going to make sure that there's no good reason for anyone producing anything for IoT to not buy VTSS' chips.

Posted by phobos - 9 years ago

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Sorry phobos, didn't notice you had already posted the Vitesse release.
Indeed, crg is really attacking this opportunity, BLESS HIS HEART!!
Notice how the 8514 is already qualified with the other two not far behind.
https://www.vitesse.com/products/product.php?number=VSC8514

Don't look fellow detractors but Crg is showing a ton of "URGENCY"

Posted by GARIF - 9 years ago

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No worries GARIF. I never thought I would hear CRG and urgency mentioned in the same sentence, but here we are.

Posted by phobos - 9 years ago

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http://feedly.com/k/MEiWBY

Posted by phobos - 9 years ago

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Apple exploring cars, medical devices to reignite growth - SFGate http://feedly.com/k/1f7HTQL

Posted by phobos - 9 years ago | Updated 9 years ago

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50 billion is only the beginning:

http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1321229

Posted by phobos - 9 years ago | Updated 9 years ago

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“We need to prevent access to the devices, both physically and logically, blocking access to the configuration parameters [...] We need to create a security layer, upgradeable, between one device and the device or the service it needs to talk to, on both sides”, said Ubuntu founder Mark Shuttleworth.

Oh! if Vitesse could become a central piece of IoT security!!!
over night she would become a billion dollar company...

Posted by GARIF - 9 years ago

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Most informative article! sounds like Echelon's IzoT has a leg up on the competition

thanks phobos

Posted by GARIF - 9 years ago

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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/forget-google-best-stock-internets-193000567.html

"Cisco has invested more than $1 billion in the Internet of Things and expects to roll out more than 700 products for this niche."

"The key point is that the Internet of Things isn't a future technology -- it already exists. By this time next year, Cisco will likely have already launched a wide variety of products targeting the opportunity."

Posted by GARIF - 9 years ago

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From Vitesse website,

http://electronicdesign.com/communications/who-s-doing-what-iot-and-m2m

"Vitesse Semiconductor’s recent Gigabit Ethernet chips target IoT end-point products and related infrastructure. IoT gateways and industrial IoT applications will use special switches to aggregate IoT data. These new ICs feature low-power Energy Efficient Ethernet, synchronization with IEEE1588 or Synchronous Ethernet, and special security options."

Posted by GARIF - 9 years ago

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https://cdn.amphionforum.com/assets/media/archive/sf13/shipley_keynote_wind_river_amphion.pdf

Posted by GARIF - 9 years ago

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"These sensors enable headquarters to gauge whether a truck is stopping for too long a period along the way."

Now when a driver develops the runs(common from truck-stop foods) he/she has to share that.

Posted by GARIF - 9 years ago

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"An ecosystem of companies, researchers and public agencies is emerging to help drive adoption of Industrial Internet applications, a foundational element for accelerating the Internet of Things."

http://mobileenterprise.edgl.com/news/Mobile-Industry-On-the-Move-March-2991900

Posted by phobos - 9 years ago

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"A 30-fold increase in the number of internet-connected products in little more than five years will “significantly alter” how supply chains operate, according to analysts.

Gartner predicts the “internet of things” (IoT) will hit 26 billion devices by 2020, up from 900 million five years ago, and this will increase the amount of information available to supply chain professionals, as well as exposure to cyber risks."

http://www.supplymanagement.com/news/2014/internet-of-things-will-significantly-alter-supply-chains

Posted by phobos - 9 years ago

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IoT Faces 4 Key Challenges

http://www.eetimes.com/author.asp?section_id=36&doc_id=1321704

Posted by phobos - 9 years ago

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"To become truly useful, wearables also need an all-important GPS. Imagine a watch that not only can tell how many steps you've taken, but how far you went with those steps, and if those steps were on flat ground or climbing stairs."

Scary stuff...

Posted by GARIF - 9 years ago

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Is everything about to be connected to everything else?

http://www.eetasia.com/ART_8800696755_499488_NT_031cc8dd.HTM

Quite the network needs building.

Posted by phobos - 9 years ago

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phobos

would be nice to see Vitesse as a stock to own, listed somewhere in that story.
actually, It would be enough just to see Vitesse listed as a company somewhere!

Posted by christ3opher - 9 years ago | Updated 9 years ago

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Since they usually list the obvious companies, and those are usually the customers of our customers (service providers), that may not happen any time soon, but it would be really great if it did, wouldn't it?

Posted by phobos - 9 years ago

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phobos

I agree and was also going to say that since the Vitesse customer is across the board, there would most probably be some sort of conflict of interest in regards to the Vitesse product line.

what about Vitesse as a stock to own? too early? need more proof?

Posted by christ3opher - 9 years ago | Updated 9 years ago

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Hell, I own VTSS.

We may be below the "catch-22" price level of $5, below which many institutions will not buy.

Who knows how long we can stay under the radar.

Posted by phobos - 9 years ago

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Friends, all this "DATA" will need strong not too expensive protection... WE WILL BE THERE!!!!!!

"Perhaps the biggest opportunities are for makers of software applications and systems in Big Data, whose wares will be needed to analyze all that stuff:

We see significant opportunities for software companies around IoT. The most obvious area is in data management as IoT creates new varieties of data as well as greater data volume. However, we believe the opportunities go much further than data management. Companies need to analyze and interpret the data, which we believe will drive spend on real-time and predictive analytics. Finally, any optimization suggested by the analysis has to be presented to end users for them to take action—or automatically to initiate a new process. As a result, we also see significant potential growth in new software applications around IoT, which will also require new development platforms. Some of these will support new business models for companies, moving the value from products to services. Finally, we believe IoT applications need to be integrated into existing business processes and IT landscapes. This could drive a new wave of spending on integration (middleware) or on a refresh of existing core applications to make them IoT friendly."

Posted by GARIF - 9 years ago

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"Secure data center-to-data center interconnects"

The above is our ticket to immortality!

"but they're not something we're going to hang our hat on too hard right now"

Crg's voice crackled as he tried to downplay this most powerful ability, with the WE'LL SEE WHAT COMES ABOUT RESPONSE, NO BIGGY...

"Our Intellisec technology in particular is unique, it is patented,
and it is something MACsec traditionally has been deployed in the data center.
Whether there are good opportunities for doing data center extension, allowing
companies to go across multiple networks with MACsec, which is what Intellisec
enables, we're still exploring. To answer your question, I think there are some
opportunities for us. But they're not something we're going to hang our hat on too
hard right now."

Posted by GARIF - 9 years ago

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Oh my God.

It just gets better and better.

I can just see the guy from BRCM saying "Ah homina homina homina..."

VTSS accidentally comes up with a great chip-set for the emergent IoT market while revolutionizing network security in the storage space (a market they seem to have stumbled into as well). I'm betting that that $500M 10-year (?) projection did not include these two markets.

Posted by phobos - 9 years ago

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VTSS keeps doing what they do best, attending conferences:

Semiconductor Corporation (Nasdaq:VTSS), a leading provider of
advanced IC solutions for Carrier, Enterprise networks and Internet of Things (IoT) networks, announced that Martin Nuss, chief technology officer at Vitesse, will advocate new paradigms for system architecture and network security at Ethernet Technology Summit 2014 in Santa Clara, Calif., April 29 - May 1, 2014.

Posted by Techinvestor - 9 years ago

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The idea behind the conferences Tech is to make alliances and to get everyone behind your particular scheme - to make it the defacto industry standard. There's a reason... VTSS has made many mistakes, but this is not one of them. They're doing what they should be doing.

Posted by phobos - 9 years ago | Updated 9 years ago

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Oh I agree with you phobos- I was just throwing in some derisive humor (They are easy targets with their track record).

Martin Nuss is one of their most effective weapons- he gives them credibility and can hopefully sell VTSS's approach and product line.

Posted by Techinvestor - 9 years ago

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Someone at VTSS replied to an article (link above) on another website ( http://www.eetimes.com/author.asp?section_id=36&doc_id=1321704 ):

"Security is another challenge to consider as we network more and more devices. Networks that were once closed are evolving to the IoT and connecting to the outside world, making them more vulnerable to hackers. To combat this, operators need to uphold stricter encryption standards than ever before. IEEE802.1AE "MACsec" security standard, for instance, sets a precedent for efficient, scalable, and affordable Layer-2 encryption. Since anything with an IP address is theoretically hackable, we can expect operators to rely heavily on this standard to overcome the threat of security breaches."

Security for the internet of everything is a big issue, but not only an issue intrinsic to the medium. It's the only way that Silicon Valley can dig themselves out of the hole in which the NSA, and others (including themselves), have placed them.

VTSS has really done their homework on this.

Why IoT needs Intellisec:

http://www.computerworld.co.nz/article/542300/6_ways_internet_things_will_transform_enterprise_security/

IoT is a big deal (market):

http://www.itbusinessnet.com/article/Internet-of-Things-(IoT)-Market--Machine-to-Machine-(M2M)-Communication-Market-Worth-49892-Billion-by-2019--New-Report-by-MarketsandMarkets-3170150

Posted by phobos - 9 years ago | Updated 9 years ago

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phobos,

thanks for all that you have been able to find in regards to Vitesse.

the Vitesse story of success has just begun.

Posted by christ3opher - 9 years ago | Updated 9 years ago

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Exciting times phobos,
100G is in full swing with Vitesse customers Ciena and Infinera leading the pack.

I've mumbled for months that Intellisec is our ticket to stardom, my daily readings reaffirms my belief that Vitesse phone is ringing 24 seven in pursuit of intelli help.
i expect CRG to share strong news on the traction of Intelli come Q2.

Posted by GARIF - 9 years ago

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Is IoT the "killer app" of LTE ( http://t.co/RD272mJXK8 )? ...even more than streaming video?

http://www.nojitter.com/post/240166984/ltes-critical-role-in-enabling-internet-of-things

Intellisec enables the ecosystem.

Interesting experience of IoT by one manufacturer:

http://www.itbusiness.ca/news/how-m2m-rollout-led-to-a-big-productivity-boost-for-one-ontario-manufacturer/47917

Between 3-d printing and m2m communication, the next decade should be transformative.

Posted by phobos - 9 years ago | Updated 9 years ago

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if a company can save money then they will most definitely make the changes that allow them to do so.

the money savings will be huge along with a significant amount of decreased CO2 being released into the atmosphere.

there is a massive footprint making up IoT.

the automobile is one example of many:

IoT will help mine and produce the raw product

IoT will help to design the auto

IoT will help to make all of the significant parts

Iot will help to assemble the actual auto

IoT will help to market and sell the auto

IoT will be an actual working part of the auto

and on and on and on...........

Posted by christ3opher - 9 years ago | Updated 9 years ago

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"McAfee will utilize its more than 400 OEM partners across the Industrial, Retail and Healthcare verticals to ensure security to the connected objects."

Cooperation between 400 entities ... what could possibly go wrong?!

http://infotechlead.com/2014/04/10/mcafee-announces-strategies-iot-segment-21727

VTSS' solution looks better all the time.

Posted by phobos - 9 years ago

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Simplicity and low cost have always been the winners secret formulas since forever! Ford car company a classic example. Vitesse in my opinion is setting her self to follow the likes of Japan car makers, In-N-Out Burger etc,,,

Posted by GARIF - 9 years ago

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Secure inexpensive security will win the day, I am enamored with our chances, what if our approach becomes the standard??

"Those two types of data have different requirements in terms of urgency and security, so utilities have to decide where to draw the line between them and what infrastructure is best for each, Siegrist said."This looming change highlights the rising hacker threat and the often lackluster attitude towards cybersecurity. The research firm estimates that 40 percent of data today requires some level of security, from heightened privacy measures to encryption, but only half of it is actually protected."

"

Posted by GARIF - 9 years ago

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Does Vitesse qualify to win some of the $300,000 loot??

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/04/17/how-will-companies-secure-the-internet-of-things.aspx

Posted by GARIF - 8 years ago

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Vitesse responds to a comment on the growth of IoT and how 1588 Security and Timing are a must. new company, Alljoyn focuses on the fact that problems are magnified when the connecting of multiple devices mushrooms.

http://www.informationweek.com/big-data/software-platforms/alljoyn-a-common-language-for-internet-of-things/d/d-id/1204467?piddl_msgid=210152

Posted by christ3opher - 8 years ago | Updated 8 years ago

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Nice dig Christ!
Vitesse is truly the SLUGWORTH of the business, where ever Security is needed there she is extolling the virtues of her solutions... Bless Your Heart Vitesse! may the stars continue to align for you...

the response

VitesseSemi,
User Rank: Apprentice
4/16/2014 | 5:14:34 PM
1588 Security & Timing
The growth of the IoT is a very exciting thing, Jeff, but it also heightens the need for proper security and network timing. Connecting more devices mushrooms the entry points for hackers. In theory, a hacker only needs an IP address to enter a network. When we consider an entire business being run through many clouds, with multiple IP addresses, the need for proper security becomes clear. Encryption strategies, such as IEEE 802.1AE MACsec, that offer efficient, scalable and affordable security will be vital. Layering into this idea is the issue of timing. Nanosecond-accurate timing is crucial for these networks, and will need to work hand-in-hand with security encryption. We will no doubt see that for the growth of IoT to continue, 'secure 1588' technologies will be pivotal to operators' long-term plans.

Posted by GARIF - 8 years ago

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" How the Internet-of-Things will shape the future"

excellent article about what IoT is,
who is involved
and where it is going.

http://www.engineering.com/ElectronicsDesign/ElectronicsDesign/articleID/7454/How-the-Internet-of-Things-Will-Shape-the-Future.aspx

Posted by christ3opher - 8 years ago | Updated 8 years ago

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It was informative in more ways than one as it mentioned Vitesse IoT customers Bosch and GE. look forward to hearing about our harem of new IoT customers in a couple of weeks.

Posted by GARIF - 8 years ago

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Intel (INTC) building interest with "Internet of Things" in South America.

http://www.bnamericas.com/news/technology/iot-interest-building-in-latam-intel

sorry phobos, just noticed you already posted this above.

Posted by christ3opher - 8 years ago | Updated 8 years ago

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No worries. I'm an obsessive poster.

IPv6 needed for the flood of new "things":

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/04/24/ipv6_iot/

Posted by phobos - 8 years ago | Updated 8 years ago

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"All those billions of devices that are soon to be connected all share at least two qualities to join the IoT: processors and connectivity."

yea they will also need VeriTIME and INTELLISEC

Hypothetical: what if the industry were to standardize with VeriT and INTELLI??? 200 to 400 POP in share price in one day perhaps??

Posted by GARIF - 8 years ago

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all this needs to be well protected...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/benkepes/2014/04/30/suddenly-everyone-wants-to-be-in-cloud-analytics/?partner=yahootix

" connecting with source data using Application Programming Interfaces (APIs) and scalable cloud infrastructure to analyze data rapidly, often in real time."

Posted by GARIF - 8 years ago

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CISCO, building Asia's first Internet of Things Hub in Bangalore.

includes a interesting/crazy television ad about promoting the "smart city", produced by Cisco

http://trak.in/tags/business/2014/07/07/bangalore-electronic-city-cisco-internet-things/

Posted by christ3opher - 8 years ago | Updated 8 years ago

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" and once fully functional, would be spread to different parts of Bangalore, making it a 100% smart city within next few years."

Why does the above remind me of the Matrix and Terminator or Enemy of the state??

Did it not seem like the coffee drinker wanted to enjoy his coffee a little longer, like he still wanted to add a few more minutes to the snooze?

Please do not misunderstand me, ALL INVOLVED ! technology is a wonderful thing, taken in moderation.

Posted by GARIF - 8 years ago

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